Participation of: Rose-Paule Vinciguerra, psychoanalyst in Paris, AME (Analyst, member of the School), Member of the ECF and the WAP. Sonia Chiriaco is a psychoanalyst in Paris, AE (Analyst of the School) in exercise, AME, Member of the ECF and the WAP. Hélène Bonnaud is psychoanalyst in Paris, AE (Analyst of the School) in exercise, AME (Analyst, member of the School), Member of the ECF and the WAP. Coordinator: Laure Naveau, Psychoanalyst in Paris, Member of the ECF and the WAP, ex-AE (Analyst of the School). Coordinator of Papers and member of the One School’s Action Committee. For this fourth preparatory night at the IX Congress of the WAP: "A real for the 21st century", three women AE colleagues, presented a version of the real that has concerned them. Rose-Paule Vinciguerra titled her presentation "The sexual non relation and women". From a paragraph of " L’Etourdit’’, she relates the homophonies which Lacan used about denial, to write the sexual non relation and The woman’s nonexistence. But if there is no sexual relation, is there The One, And thus, the Other? In her presentation,"Love and hatred of the norm" Sonia Chiriaco states that we are under the empire of the rules, under the influence of them. However, something always escapes which pushes to invent, endlessly; new rules to try to capture the untamed thing. In this tension between love and hatred of the norm, everyone is confronted, but only the analysis allows us to clarify the spring. For its part, in her presentation: "The two writings of the word in the analytical experience", Hélène Bonnaud wondered: what does it mean to speak in analysis? What is it heard in what is said? What is it is heard? What is it written? How is the passage from listening to sense, to what is read in what is written? Hélène Bonnaud addresses the question by the word and by the writing in analysis, opposing what is written in the word to pure writing, as Jacques Alain Miller introduced in his course "The self and the One". The round table was moderated by Laure Naveau.