Maurizio Mazzotti, Member of the SLP and WAP; curator of the Italian book of the Congress in Buenos Aires - The symbolic order in the 21st century - faces a debate on the notion of symbolic disorder, especially in the light of the theme of the next Congress in Paris "A real for the 21st century". Today, modern civilization is not the other side of psychoanalysis, as stated by J. Miller. In this interview, the prospects for a debate on the practice of Psychoanalysis in the 21st century culture are under discussion. Maurizio Mazzotti is AME (Analyst member of the School) of the SLP (for which he was President from 2002 to 2007). He is a member of the WAP and is currently part of its Executive Council. He is a teacher of the Freudian Institute. He has published numerous articles in psychoanalytic journals around the world. Carlo De Panfilis is psychoanalyst, Member of the SLP and the WAP. Collaborator of the SLP for RadioLacan.