Amanda Goya, analyst member of the Lacanian School of Psychoanalysis, Member of the ELP and the WAP, and teacher of the NUCEP of the ICF. This year she has been one of the organizers of the annual Clinical conversation that the ICF in Spain implements, (which Jacques Alain Miller attends as a guest teacher), about the relevance of this encounter for analysts in Spain. Carmen Conca: Member of the ELP and the WAP.