Orlando Mejía speaks with Bruno de Halleux during the 4th Week of Autism in Bogota, which was held in Bogota, Colombia, beginning August 22nd 2016. This is a conversation that touches on issues of our time, such as control, war, and the passions; issues which are central to 9th Conference of the NEL, ‘Violence and Passions: Their Treatments in the Analytic Experience’, to be held in Guayaquil, Ecuador, from October 21st to 23rd 2016.