On 4 June 2016 the ACF Aquitaine Day took place in Biarritz, the theme of which was "What Changed in Psychoanalysis" and was attended by Éric Laurent. We present the conversation with Éric Laurent about his book "L'envers de la biopolitique - Une écriture pour la jouissance" and the lecture given by him, "The Body and the Triumphs of Religions". Radio Lacan wishes to thank Rodolphe Adam and Philippe Cousty for the recording.